A Retort of Sorts
Ah, the battle rages on:
Kat,You are right. I used the word 'dearth' wrongly. It is one of those things you pick up wrongly. Thanks for pointing that out.
As to your other comments, I don't consider myself religious. But thanks for asking. And for your information, there is a difference between being blunt and not having control over your tongue.
Tempest chose the forum, not me. It was only after he responded immaturely, insulted me repeatedly and then closed my ability to reply to the insults that I chose to post here.Tempest himself set the standard when he said that you can't offend someone with the truth. But then, I am starting to suspect you are merely trying to shut me up as opposed to deal with the situation in an even-handed manner.
If you must know, everybody screws up all the time. There are those who can handle being called on it with humility and there are those who get angry and start insulting anything that moves. Christian's all accept they are fallible and will not be able to perfectly reflect biblical teachings. Ironically, this perfectly reflects biblical teachings.
suspicious
1. Arousing or apt to arouse suspicion; questionable
2. Tending to suspect; distrustful
3. Expressing suspicionSeems perfectly clear.
There doesn't seem to be any indication that a person has to be trying to sell me something.I will happily engage in discussion with people who I disagree with. Are you saying that we shouldn't talk to people with different ideas to our own? If so, then why are you bothering to post comments?And when you talk about following "Christ's example", perhaps you should take into consideration ALL of Christ's example and not just the ones you like. I have not made any threats, nor have responded to insults with insults. Jesus never said we are to not defend ourselves when attacked, just that we aren't meant to respond in kind.
Now as to academics, plagiarism and copyright infringement.I think you have your definitions wrong. Plagiarism is about passing someone elses work for your own. Copyright infringement is about using someone elses work when you don't have permission to. This is why it is irrelevant as to what the author "wants".As to why deal with this piece of plagiarism? I have already detailed the situation. I didn't post a column here as a first recourse and I haven't come across Ms Coulter's efforts where i am in a position to know. This post isn't about plagiarism, but about people who try and tell you they try to be a good person and are not anti-christian, but the reality of their actions show what they really mean.
As for your comments about caring...it seems you would like Christian's to sit down, shut up and keep out of the marketplace of ideas which will let people who agree with you control all the things people get to hear. It's not about whether people will get upset at Christianity or me. I fully expect people won't like me. That's why I am not hurt or upset about it. It is about engaging in a discussion, teaching people and generally seeking the truth. Whilst you may want people with different views to your own to shut up, I prefer to have an open discourse.I'm glad you agree that the Tempest was mocking a deriding. That was one of my main points. Good to see we are on the same page.
I'm sure you would like it if I spent all my time dealing with everyone that you disagree with and ignoring the people you agree with. Of course, my point was not to defend those people who email the Tempest, but that his own stated reasoning implicates himself.
As previously stated, I used the word 'dearth' incorrectly and will fix it. I find it curious that you don't address the point, but instead avoid it by using this as a red herring. It seems Kat, that you are simply one of those people who wants anyone who disagrees with them to shut up.
You've learned a few tricks about how to try and get them to shut up, and so you think you have some sort of point. Perhaps instead you should be more open-minded and engage people who hold different views to your own.
FYI. The Tempest seems to have gotten very worked up about my 'opinion' so it hardly seems like he 'could care less'.
# posted by Alan Grey : 12/8/06 12:14 PM
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Kat,You are right. I used the word 'dearth' wrongly. It is one of those things you pick up wrongly. Thanks for pointing that out.
As to your other comments, I don't consider myself religious. But thanks for asking. And for your information, there is a difference between being blunt and not having control over your tongue.
Tempest chose the forum, not me. It was only after he responded immaturely, insulted me repeatedly and then closed my ability to reply to the insults that I chose to post here.Tempest himself set the standard when he said that you can't offend someone with the truth. But then, I am starting to suspect you are merely trying to shut me up as opposed to deal with the situation in an even-handed manner.
If you must know, everybody screws up all the time. There are those who can handle being called on it with humility and there are those who get angry and start insulting anything that moves. Christian's all accept they are fallible and will not be able to perfectly reflect biblical teachings. Ironically, this perfectly reflects biblical teachings.
suspicious
1. Arousing or apt to arouse suspicion; questionable
2. Tending to suspect; distrustful
3. Expressing suspicionSeems perfectly clear.
There doesn't seem to be any indication that a person has to be trying to sell me something.I will happily engage in discussion with people who I disagree with. Are you saying that we shouldn't talk to people with different ideas to our own? If so, then why are you bothering to post comments?And when you talk about following "Christ's example", perhaps you should take into consideration ALL of Christ's example and not just the ones you like. I have not made any threats, nor have responded to insults with insults. Jesus never said we are to not defend ourselves when attacked, just that we aren't meant to respond in kind.
Now as to academics, plagiarism and copyright infringement.I think you have your definitions wrong. Plagiarism is about passing someone elses work for your own. Copyright infringement is about using someone elses work when you don't have permission to. This is why it is irrelevant as to what the author "wants".As to why deal with this piece of plagiarism? I have already detailed the situation. I didn't post a column here as a first recourse and I haven't come across Ms Coulter's efforts where i am in a position to know. This post isn't about plagiarism, but about people who try and tell you they try to be a good person and are not anti-christian, but the reality of their actions show what they really mean.
As for your comments about caring...it seems you would like Christian's to sit down, shut up and keep out of the marketplace of ideas which will let people who agree with you control all the things people get to hear. It's not about whether people will get upset at Christianity or me. I fully expect people won't like me. That's why I am not hurt or upset about it. It is about engaging in a discussion, teaching people and generally seeking the truth. Whilst you may want people with different views to your own to shut up, I prefer to have an open discourse.I'm glad you agree that the Tempest was mocking a deriding. That was one of my main points. Good to see we are on the same page.
I'm sure you would like it if I spent all my time dealing with everyone that you disagree with and ignoring the people you agree with. Of course, my point was not to defend those people who email the Tempest, but that his own stated reasoning implicates himself.
As previously stated, I used the word 'dearth' incorrectly and will fix it. I find it curious that you don't address the point, but instead avoid it by using this as a red herring. It seems Kat, that you are simply one of those people who wants anyone who disagrees with them to shut up.
You've learned a few tricks about how to try and get them to shut up, and so you think you have some sort of point. Perhaps instead you should be more open-minded and engage people who hold different views to your own.
FYI. The Tempest seems to have gotten very worked up about my 'opinion' so it hardly seems like he 'could care less'.
# posted by Alan Grey : 12/8/06 12:14 PM
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posted by Kat B. | 9:48 AM
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Later he added:
Well, I looked into the Ann Coulter 'plagiarism thing' and if the Daily Kos can call it overblown, I reckon that's a pretty good indication that there isn't a lot to it. I guess Kat never got the memo.
(On another note: It seems Kat does know the difference between plagiarism and copyright infringement.... I guess it really was a red herring)
# posted by Alan Grey : 12/8/06 12:25 PM
While I don't pretend to understand his obsession with red fish - must be an Aussie thing - it seems he wanted me to address the issue of the homosexual lifestyle...hmmm...well, I'm not one - so I can't but from what I've seen my gay friends live life with style.
I'm puzzled by one thing though - why is there only one "homosexual lifestyle"? Is there also only one "heterosexual lifestyle"? Doesn't each person have a right to determine their own lifestyle regardless of sexual preference?
As for the Ann Coulter thing:
2 hours after calling overblown The Daily Kos posted "Coulter plagiarism story picks up steam" and you can read more
here
I guess Alan got the memo but just didn't read it.
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